HH 38WXST channel mod
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HH 38WXST channel mod
Hello everyone. First post on this great forum. I hope one of you will be able to help me.
I have attempted the channel mod on this handheld Cobra but cannot access the upper and lower frequncies.
What I did was bridge J14, and fire up the radio and press "Freq" then "Scan" as the instructions I found
said to do but no luck.
Would anyone be able to shine a light on this for me.
Thanks all
I have attempted the channel mod on this handheld Cobra but cannot access the upper and lower frequncies.
What I did was bridge J14, and fire up the radio and press "Freq" then "Scan" as the instructions I found
said to do but no luck.
Would anyone be able to shine a light on this for me.
Thanks all
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Frequnecy Mod
1. Remove battery compartment door.
2. Remove the 2 screws in the Battery compartment.
3. Remove the 2 screws at the belt clip
4. Measuring from outside bottom of radio up each side 3 1/8 inches (plus or
minus 1/8/ of an inch) at this point being very careful insert a very thin,
flat screwdriver and disengage the internal case connectors by pushing
straight in. I then bevel the cases mating edges to remove the marks made
disconnecting the case connectors.
5. Remove the top screw with brown fiber washer, located at the top center
of board.
6. Remove the PTT, Channel up and down, light side piece. You will see a
wire soldered to the shield covering, the CPU and to board ground, unsolder the
wire from the CPU shield below, and between the Channel up and Channel down
switches.
7. Now separate the front part from the Board. At the top Right of the CPU
Board is J14, two unused solder pads, bridge them. J14 is also just to the
right of R358 and to the left of the top right screw.
8. Reassemble Radio, turn on and press Function then scan and the U = upper
channels, the L = lower channels, and no U or L = CB Channels.
This is what I found on CB Tricks. Hope this helps.
1. Remove battery compartment door.
2. Remove the 2 screws in the Battery compartment.
3. Remove the 2 screws at the belt clip
4. Measuring from outside bottom of radio up each side 3 1/8 inches (plus or
minus 1/8/ of an inch) at this point being very careful insert a very thin,
flat screwdriver and disengage the internal case connectors by pushing
straight in. I then bevel the cases mating edges to remove the marks made
disconnecting the case connectors.
5. Remove the top screw with brown fiber washer, located at the top center
of board.
6. Remove the PTT, Channel up and down, light side piece. You will see a
wire soldered to the shield covering, the CPU and to board ground, unsolder the
wire from the CPU shield below, and between the Channel up and Channel down
switches.
7. Now separate the front part from the Board. At the top Right of the CPU
Board is J14, two unused solder pads, bridge them. J14 is also just to the
right of R358 and to the left of the top right screw.
8. Reassemble Radio, turn on and press Function then scan and the U = upper
channels, the L = lower channels, and no U or L = CB Channels.
This is what I found on CB Tricks. Hope this helps.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Hi, thanks for getting back to me.
Those are the instructions I used. The radio still works, but the upper and lower channels don't
show up.
The stuff I've read on the older handheld Cobras have you short a pin on the
cpu or a capacitor to reset the cpu. Maybe I will leave it unpowered without batteries
for a while to see if that works.
Those are the instructions I used. The radio still works, but the upper and lower channels don't
show up.
The stuff I've read on the older handheld Cobras have you short a pin on the
cpu or a capacitor to reset the cpu. Maybe I will leave it unpowered without batteries
for a while to see if that works.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Hello junkmail1999,
Welcome to the forum. I've never done a cobra but have a couple Maxon's that converted well. If waiting for the battery/capacitor to die then firing it up again doesn't work try holding the function button while turning it on. Pushing the scan button once should put it in Low (L) twice in High (H) and three times back to CB.
As a new member could you post a intro in the "Welcome to the forum" topic, [Please login or register to view this link] ,so members can say "hello", thanks.
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Welcome to the forum. I've never done a cobra but have a couple Maxon's that converted well. If waiting for the battery/capacitor to die then firing it up again doesn't work try holding the function button while turning it on. Pushing the scan button once should put it in Low (L) twice in High (H) and three times back to CB.
As a new member could you post a intro in the "Welcome to the forum" topic, [Please login or register to view this link] ,so members can say "hello", thanks.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Thanks for the tip. I will give that a try. I haven't had a chance today to look at it.
I should do that right now.
-- Saturday, 24 January 2015, 16:18 PM --
Ok. An update. It works.
I tried letting the radio sit with no power or batteries connected to see if letting the caps drain would reset the cpu. Nope.
I then tried holding the function button while powering up the radio. No luck.
So I disassembled it again, checked that my bridge had continuity. It did.
So I saw there were 2 surface mounted caps that were accessible, so I shorted them to ground... and it worked. I believe they were C306 and C308.
I don't know for sure which one did it, but it worked.
I hope this helps someone trying to do this.
I should do that right now.
-- Saturday, 24 January 2015, 16:18 PM --
Ok. An update. It works.
I tried letting the radio sit with no power or batteries connected to see if letting the caps drain would reset the cpu. Nope.
I then tried holding the function button while powering up the radio. No luck.
So I disassembled it again, checked that my bridge had continuity. It did.
So I saw there were 2 surface mounted caps that were accessible, so I shorted them to ground... and it worked. I believe they were C306 and C308.
I don't know for sure which one did it, but it worked.
I hope this helps someone trying to do this.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Glad you got it working. You could send a email to CB Tricks explaining what you did and maybe he would add that to the instructions. They are always updating their site.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
junkmail1999 wrote: Jan 23 2015, 20:30
I tried letting the radio sit with no power or batteries connected to see if letting the caps drain would reset the cpu. Nope.
...
So I saw there were 2 surface mounted caps that were accessible, so I shorted them to ground... and it worked. I believe they were C306 and C308.
As this radio model is still available at retail, though this thread is rather old, the info is still very helpful (I just bought one, for example).
I initially had the same experience after rework, with the radio tuner retaining it's original channel choices, and not enabling U/L choices.
Rather than re-open my reworked radio to temporarily short the caps listed, I simply unplugged the radio and kept it powered off for about 2 weeks, which had the same affect, draining the static memory, and enabling the Upper/Lower/Normal channel selection.
I wrote to the CB Tricks website webmaster, got a bounced back email from the provided address, and then I wrote to the registration admin contact to advise the need to edit their rework steps on the Cobra H38WXST to include a step to clear any static charge in the tuner's ram to enable the frequency toggle. I also provided the URL of the original rework instructions, and gave credit to this thread for the cap drain feedback.MDYoungblood wrote: Jan 27 2015, 11:29 Glad you got it working. You could send a email to CB Tricks explaining what you did and maybe he would add that to the instructions. They are always updating their site.
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Rather than to repeat my mistakes / delay, I advise that when performing the rework and with the radio still disassembled, for the tech to temporarily short the +/- sides of caps C306, C308 and of any other larger caps on the main controller board to ensure the controller / tuner's ram is cleared.
Most importantly, please ensure that any rework is performed in an ESD safe environment, wearing a grounding strap, etc.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
I am looking for a way to adjust one or more of the current Weather Channel frequencies on the Cobra 38WXST (for receive only, of course).
In my region, there are 2 available NOAA weather channels, and the rest of the presets receive only static (though they are used in other regions).
The NOAA weather channels are between 162.3625-162.5875 MHz, are FM wideband, and use up to 16 kHz bandwidth per channel.
I want to adjust one or more channels to receive Multi-Use Radio Service channels (151.820 MHz, 151.880 MHz, 151.940 MHz, 154.570 MHz), also FM, and they use either 11.25 kHz (those at 151.xx MHz) or 20 kHz (the 154.xx channel) bandwidth. Finding a way to adjust the fixed NOAA channels on this device could theoretically allow receiving select MURS frequencies and/or other fixed VHF-FM frequencies in the 2 Meter band, without having to carry a second device.
Reading the schematic, it appears the target circuits would in be the top-center section, "WX RF AMP. AND FIRST MIXER AREA". More specifically, near the 162-MHz L3/213CL, and 10-MHz L4/211CL area. I don't see individual settings for frequencies for each of the WX channels, so I'm guessing that's being addressed by the TK10930 IC. I'll need to pull a datasheet for that circuit to compare against the circuit. I'm concerned that changing the current circuit may allow tuning of only one channel, at the cost of losing all other (including 2 currently working) NOAA weather channels.
Has anyone else tried adjusting the fixed NOAA weather frequencies on this radio? If so, I would appreciate any feedback.
In my region, there are 2 available NOAA weather channels, and the rest of the presets receive only static (though they are used in other regions).
The NOAA weather channels are between 162.3625-162.5875 MHz, are FM wideband, and use up to 16 kHz bandwidth per channel.
I want to adjust one or more channels to receive Multi-Use Radio Service channels (151.820 MHz, 151.880 MHz, 151.940 MHz, 154.570 MHz), also FM, and they use either 11.25 kHz (those at 151.xx MHz) or 20 kHz (the 154.xx channel) bandwidth. Finding a way to adjust the fixed NOAA channels on this device could theoretically allow receiving select MURS frequencies and/or other fixed VHF-FM frequencies in the 2 Meter band, without having to carry a second device.
Reading the schematic, it appears the target circuits would in be the top-center section, "WX RF AMP. AND FIRST MIXER AREA". More specifically, near the 162-MHz L3/213CL, and 10-MHz L4/211CL area. I don't see individual settings for frequencies for each of the WX channels, so I'm guessing that's being addressed by the TK10930 IC. I'll need to pull a datasheet for that circuit to compare against the circuit. I'm concerned that changing the current circuit may allow tuning of only one channel, at the cost of losing all other (including 2 currently working) NOAA weather channels.
Has anyone else tried adjusting the fixed NOAA weather frequencies on this radio? If so, I would appreciate any feedback.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
I believe your right, the IC does control the Weather portion of the radio, you can change frequency by adjusting the loads in that area but not sure what you will get, just remember where it was set at the start so you can get the weather freq's back. Not really much point in going for MURS band since it will only receive anyway.
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Only "Normal" CB frequencies listed below are allowed in the US for use as the unlicensed CB band, but, if you've
modified your Cobra 38WXST handheld, it is technically no longer "type accepted" by the FCC for use as a CB radio.
Note that many of the L/U frequencies listed below are in use by various government organizations etc. ,
but none reach into the HAM bands from what I've seen. In any case, use only at your own risk (or don't).
As I didn't see this info posted elsewhere online, I created a table showing the frequencies resulting from this mod.
"L" is shown as "Lower", "U" is shown as "Upper", and no letter (CB channels) are is listed as "Normal".
could damage your radio. Even within the CB band, the included rubber ducky antenna's tuning isn't ideal. I advise
to get an SWR meter, add an adjustable antenna, and "make that change" (save your radio, and improve your range!).
modified your Cobra 38WXST handheld, it is technically no longer "type accepted" by the FCC for use as a CB radio.
Note that many of the L/U frequencies listed below are in use by various government organizations etc. ,
but none reach into the HAM bands from what I've seen. In any case, use only at your own risk (or don't).
As I didn't see this info posted elsewhere online, I created a table showing the frequencies resulting from this mod.
"L" is shown as "Lower", "U" is shown as "Upper", and no letter (CB channels) are is listed as "Normal".
Channel Normal Lower Upper Channel Normal Lower Upper
1 26.965 26.515 27.415 21 27.215 26.765 27.665
2 26.975 26.525 27.425 22 27.225 26.775 27.675
3 26.985 26.535 27.435 23 27.255 26.805 27.705
4 27.005 26.555 27.455 24 27.235 26.785 27.685
5 27.015 26.565 27.465 25 27.245 26.795 27.695
6 27.025 26.575 27.475 26 27.265 26.815 27.715
7 27.035 26.585 27.485 27 27.275 26.865 27.725
8 27.055 26.605 27.505 28 27.285 26.835 27.735
9 27.065 26.615 27.515 29 27.295 26.845 27.745
10 27.075 26.625 27.525 30 27.305 26.855 27.755
11 27.085 26.635 27.535 31 27.315 26.865 27.765
12 27.105 26.655 27.555 32 27.325 26.875 27.775
13 27.115 26.665 27.565 33 27.335 26.885 27.785
14 27.125 26.675 27.575 34 27.345 26.895 27.795
15 27.135 26.685 27.585 35 27.355 26.905 27.805
16 27.155 26.705 27.605 36 27.365 26.915 27.815
17 27.165 26.715 27.615 37 27.375 26.925 27.825
18 27.175 26.725 27.625 38 27.385 26.935 27.835
19 27.185 26.735 27.635 39 27.395 26.945 27.845
20 27.205 26.755 27.655 40 27.405 26.955 27.855
p.s. Aside from the legality perspective, transmitting outside of the CB band will drive your VSWR out of tune, andcould damage your radio. Even within the CB band, the included rubber ducky antenna's tuning isn't ideal. I advise
to get an SWR meter, add an adjustable antenna, and "make that change" (save your radio, and improve your range!).
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Re: HH 38WXST channel mod
Anyone have photos on the procedure?