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Not just at a keydown....

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Not just at a keydown....

Post by J-570 » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 17:32 PM

Competition setups aren't just used for keydowns, many people run more extreme setups just to battle it out locally then you think. For instance many people around here are running their mobile setups at 14-16 volts just for every day talking. It doesn't have to be in a Suburban or a full size van, it could be that guy in the 2003 Ford Focus hatch back with the dual alternator setup and the M-80 driving the straight 6.... or the everyday driver SUV with a 2x8 in the back.

Around here anyway, every day is a key down from the time you get in your ride to the time you get out of it. Local truck drivers like myself are running 1x4's, 2x4's 2x6's and even 2x8's in our big trucks at 14-16 volts. It's all about how much power you push through your antenna, nobody cares about S-Units when you're main objective is to be the only one heard for 10-15 miles.

Some may say that is immature or selfish ect, but that is the hobby for most people at least where I live. If you want to just relax and talk to some folks, you do it on an out of the way channel but channel 19 is the place to lock it down. That is where all the mud ducks are, running their mouths and crying because you've been on the key for the last 10 minutes and they didn't bother to look at their map or call their shipper/receiver for directions.

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Post by PRO151 » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 18:44 PM

"It's a battlefield out there...who's side are you on?"

MINE! and MINE ALONE!

Should we ever meet on the airwaves Sir J-570, I shall fire up my gizmothingamajig, put maximum power to it and vanquish you from the airwaves once and for all! :lol:
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Post by J-570 » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 18:50 PM

I welcome your challenge Pro151, just be sure to be a good sport after me and diesel battlemobile get down.... :lol:

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Post by PRO151 » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 19:09 PM

Oh Crap! That did not work out the way I had it planned. You were supposed to bow down to my brave threat and beg forgiveness. Now you have accepted the challenge and called my bluff. :shock: With a maximum output of 230 watts from N.E Alabama, I will have to slink away in disgrace. :D
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Post by J-570 » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 19:21 PM

Well there Pro151, hopefully after some time this section will provide you with the resources you need to be a formidable opponent. I think there is enough people here with the knowledge to get most people to a decent level of throw down knowledge.


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Post by Crusher » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 20:37 PM

I get mobiles round here that will travel 30-60 miles away just to get way up on a hilltop somewhere. especially if a base and a mobile are fighting. A guy that has a mobile beam set up way up on a hill running less power has whipped several base stations using high power output.

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Post by J-570 » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 20:39 PM

Crusher wrote:I get mobiles round here that will travel 30-60 miles away just to get way up on a hilltop somewhere. especially if a base and a mobile are fighting. A guy that has a mobile beam set up way up on a hill running less power has whipped several base stations using high power output.
A friend of mine does this.... drives up a mountian to 3200 feet, set's up a davemade 2 element beam on a hitch mount we made and keys his 3x8 through it.

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Post by Rex_foxhound » Saturday, 24 November 2007, 21:49 PM

height is might as they say.
ive been guilty of going up on some hills around here and talking to guys 60-70 miles away. just ask distortion69 about that. :)
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Post by Crusher » Sunday, 25 November 2007, 6:54 AM

Up on a hill, that works really well when DX is rollin. best way to put all the other locals on hold. You can dominate in your area.

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Post by Phaze91460 » Sunday, 25 November 2007, 9:50 AM

Hey Rex, One good place to make a stand is up on Spaghetti Junction on the 285 to 85N in bumper to bumper rush hour. At the top of that bridge you are higher than anything in Atlanta but the Stone Mountain. I have flattened many an ear from up there.
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Post by crazytruker » Monday, 26 November 2007, 17:09 PM

J-570 wrote:
Crusher wrote:I get mobiles round here that will travel 30-60 miles away just to get way up on a hilltop somewhere. especially if a base and a mobile are fighting. A guy that has a mobile beam set up way up on a hill running less power has whipped several base stations using high power output.
A friend of mine does this.... drives up a mountian to 3200 feet, set's up a davemade 2 element beam on a hitch mount we made and keys his 3x8 through it.
3200 feet elevation is a mountain? :D

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Post by soup bone » Monday, 26 November 2007, 17:46 PM

the streets of texas are my battle feild,,,like he said from daylight to dark i battle for my rank as one, just to be herd so like they say when its time soup bone will key his battle station and say ,,,,,,,, GET IN LINE FOR SOME KEY UP TIME,,WORLD WIDE 305 THE BONE,,SOUP BONE,,,IM GONE AND ILL SEE YA :D :D

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Post by Phaze91460 » Tuesday, 27 November 2007, 11:53 AM

crazytruker wrote:
J-570 wrote:
Crusher wrote:I get mobiles round here that will travel 30-60 miles away just to get way up on a hilltop somewhere. especially if a base and a mobile are fighting. A guy that has a mobile beam set up way up on a hill running less power has whipped several base stations using high power output.
A friend of mine does this.... drives up a mountian to 3200 feet, set's up a davemade 2 element beam on a hitch mount we made and keys his 3x8 through it.
3200 feet elevation is a mountain? :D
When you live in CO, then probably not however if you lived FL then 1000 feet is a mountain. All a mater of perspective.
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Post by 237 » Friday, 30 November 2007, 18:36 PM

J-570 wrote: Around here anyway, every day is a key down from the time you get in your ride to the time you get out of it.


It's a battlefield out there...who's side are you on?
What part of PA are you in? I'm in the steel city copy?

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237 wrote:
J-570 wrote: Around here anyway, every day is a key down from the time you get in your ride to the time you get out of it.


It's a battlefield out there...who's side are you on?
What part of PA are you in? I'm in the steel city copy?
East side... right on the Jersey border....it's loud over here... :lol:

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J-570 wrote:
237 wrote:
J-570 wrote: Around here anyway, every day is a key down from the time you get in your ride to the time you get out of it.


It's a battlefield out there...who's side are you on?
What part of PA are you in? I'm in the steel city copy?
East side... right on the Jersey border....it's loud over here... :lol:
It used to be over here too but not so much anymore. Less than ten years ago you needed at least a kw to talk across town. Now it's dead.

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Post by Superdave » Saturday, 01 December 2007, 7:18 AM

It sure is. I get up that way every couple of months, and those guys are always going at it hard! I'll listen for you next time I pass through.

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Post by J-570 » Saturday, 01 December 2007, 7:20 AM

Superdave wrote:It sure is. I get up that way every couple of months, and those guys are always going at it hard! I'll listen for you next time I pass through.
Just listen for that Whippit RDX #570, you'll hear me or one of my many brothers no doubt.

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Post by triple7wva » Saturday, 01 December 2007, 14:41 PM

my 22 total pills running on 16volts get the job done in the eastern panhandle of wva for me....my main play spot is a 10 story parking garage that i park ontop of when i want to be king. but i can usualy lock it down just cruzin the streets....jas
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Post by Ninety Three Eleven » Saturday, 01 December 2007, 14:56 PM

My mobile is transportation that just happens to be able to do some skip shooting from time to time. While some have mobiles that are made primarily for shootouts, I am not that lucky but one day my time may come. A mobile for shootouts ONLY. What a country :lol:

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Post by Part Time » Sunday, 02 December 2007, 12:27 PM

triple7wva wrote:....my main play spot is a 10 story parking garage that i park ontop of when i want to be king.
This is always fun to do. I have fooled a few locals into thinking that I was running an amp, and another one thought that I must have got a new radio. My little Cobra 29 NW LTD with the 1969 final does better than one would think. :lol:

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Post by Rex_foxhound » Sunday, 02 December 2007, 20:29 PM

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J-570 wrote:
Crusher wrote:I get mobiles round here that will travel 30-60 miles away just to get way up on a hilltop somewhere. especially if a base and a mobile are fighting. A guy that has a mobile beam set up way up on a hill running less power has whipped several base stations using high power output.
A friend of mine does this.... drives up a mountian to 3200 feet, set's up a davemade 2 element beam on a hitch mount we made and keys his 3x8 through it.

Be a real man if you wanna battle and prove to be a man with a **Censored** setup then you better be a man with a **Censored** setup as in have the right size boxes and the right charging system to support those boxes to not rely on a mountain or even a hilltop to drop a *Censored* on someone. GOT PILLS?........... 73'S

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Post by BIG R 184 » Sunday, 26 July 2009, 8:40 AM

My suburban is my daily driver with 16 pills at 16 volts . There are no moutains or hills around here .If you need and advantage you go to lake ponchatrain an sit on the water and talk. I have my moutain in the back of my suburban. It is alot of fun doing battle with the locales around here there are alot of bad mobiles in the new orleans area. Fighting local is fun but i like it when the skip is rolling.

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Post by PYRO-736 » Friday, 31 July 2009, 17:11 PM

Skip is where its at BIG R I was never into talkin smack much locally and not into runnin the big box around town...no need to stroke the ego on 19 do it on the bowl(well hope to once I get the mobile 10-8 and straight)-- Do ok for now on my little 667v but cant wait to get the DAVEMADES goin. Even when I was runnin descent power down south in TX in '95 was never much of a battler just like to get out there and get my name called Take care BIG R and hope to catch you out there on the band in skipland.

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crazytruker wrote:
J-570 wrote:
Crusher wrote:I get mobiles round here that will travel 30-60 miles away just to get way up on a hilltop somewhere. especially if a base and a mobile are fighting. A guy that has a mobile beam set up way up on a hill running less power has whipped several base stations using high power output.
A friend of mine does this.... drives up a mountian to 3200 feet, set's up a davemade 2 element beam on a hitch mount we made and keys his 3x8 through it.
3200 feet elevation is a mountain? :D

haha yeah i was thinking the same thing. we've got a couple hills in arizona, one is 12,000ft around flagstaff.
I too like to get in the hills above Phoenix. 4peaks, is 6500ft. on the ridge, just hills compared to real mountains. Phoenix sits around 1500ft.
so thats about a 5000ft antenna!

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Post by toxa » Saturday, 14 November 2009, 19:29 PM

Phaze91460 wrote:Hey Rex, One good place to make a stand is up on Spaghetti Junction on the 285 to 85N in bumper to bumper rush hour. At the top of that bridge you are higher than anything in Atlanta but the Stone Mountain. I have flattened many an ear from up there.
What about worldwide did you get him? he is very annoying. Hope some one can silance that fool.

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Post by hammers » Sunday, 27 June 2010, 15:36 PM

J-570 wrote:Competition setups aren't just used for keydowns, many people run more extreme setups just to battle it out locally then you think. For instance many people around here are running their mobile setups at 14-16 volts just for every day talking. It doesn't have to be in a Suburban or a full size van, it could be that guy in the 2003 Ford Focus hatch back with the dual alternator setup and the M-80 driving the straight 6.... or the everyday driver SUV with a 2x8 in the back.

Around here anyway, every day is a key down from the time you get in your ride to the time you get out of it. Local truck drivers like myself are running 1x4's, 2x4's 2x6's and even 2x8's in our big trucks at 14-16 volts. It's all about how much power you push through your antenna, nobody cares about S-Units when you're main objective is to be the only one heard for 10-15 miles.

Some may say that is immature or selfish ect, but that is the hobby for most people at least where I live. If you want to just relax and talk to some folks, you do it on an out of the way channel but channel 19 is the place to lock it down. That is where all the mud ducks are, running their mouths and crying because you've been on the key for the last 10 minutes and they didn't bother to look at their map or call their shipper/receiver for directions.

It's a battlefield out there...who's side are you on?
well if some one hollars breakcheck on 19 and anouther driver does not hear it and plowes into the back of a care driven by a mom w/here 3 kides in the backseat cause someone had the town locked down on 19 that would be a tragady
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Post by hammers » Sunday, 27 June 2010, 19:55 PM

please respect the truck drivers who use the cb as a tool and dont key down on 19 im all 4 comp. but please not on 19 more than once i've had my gluteus maxims saved by someone who yell'ed breakcheck out and i slamed em' on smoke and all and got stopped just in time some things to think about 80000 lbs 75 mph and a stoped car that weighs 2500 lbs please do the math think about it as if it was your wife or girlfiend in that car or your kids the hell with the fcc but come on lets have a gentalmans agrement about 19 it makes the highways safer only if the channel's open thankyou 881 and im quiet
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Post by 721HACKSAW » Tuesday, 29 June 2010, 5:42 AM

It works both ways. Please respect the local base station operators on channels 36-40 that are trying to talk on SSB. The same accepted pratice that 19 AM is for trucks applys to channels 36-40 for SSB. There is lots of band space for all of us.

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Post by 420Snowman » Wednesday, 18 August 2010, 9:01 AM

WOW, this is a old post that went on for some time, just talking about how big everyones radio is!! I am a duck in the pond, but I tell you what, I look calm and collected on top, but I am paddling like hell underneath!!!
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Post by superdad » Tuesday, 23 November 2010, 11:08 AM

Seriously, why kill 'em on 19? Use a channel that people aren't relying on. Also don't key up on 36-40. Those home-base operators are trying to kill it up there. Use something, but not 19.... Also, what is the point of a keydown? Man oh man, send a message or something!!! Keying up and keying up and talking are 2 different things, I guess....!
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Post by dragline » Wednesday, 24 November 2010, 19:37 PM

hammers wrote:please respect the truck drivers who use the cb as a tool and dont key down on 19 im all 4 comp. but please not on 19 more than once i've had my **Censored** maxims saved by someone who yell'ed breakcheck out and i slamed em' on smoke and all and got stopped just in time some things to think about 80000 lbs 75 mph and a stoped car that weighs 2500 lbs please do the math think about it as if it was your wife or girlfiend in that car or your kids the hell with the fcc but come on lets have a gentalmans agrement about 19 it makes the highways safer only if the channel's open thankyou 881 and im quiet

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Post by 99WJNM » Monday, 28 February 2011, 21:30 PM

i do the hill thing too i just go to round 10,000 feet or so and blanket the vally of albuquerque and surrounding areas....

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Post by dime196604 » Saturday, 18 June 2011, 20:52 PM

Wow. This thread is like a keydown, every one shouting to say what way to do it, or how to run your radio. I got not problems with keydowns, it takes a lot of work, money, and dedication to get there, but i will never try to talk on the bowl no matter how much power i can buy. For me, listening to the bowl is harsh, every one is severely over modulated and talking gibberish. Between the lingo and distorted modulation, its like nails on a chalk board. To each their own. Power or not i would rather be loud not over modulated, and sound clear and full of audio with bass and treble, then you run massive watts if you need it.
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