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What type antenna?

Post by Beachbum24 » Monday, 08 January 2018, 10:23 AM

Hello CBRT. Well hate for my first post to be a help one. I live in a townhouse were I am unable to install a roof antenna. So what would be my best bet. As of now. I have a Firestick firefly and a Procomm Pat-12. And I am using a Galaxy DX959. And help would be greatly appreciated. Also, I do have a attic if that matters.

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Buy a house out in the country and put up a 50' tower with a big-A Beam on top! :mrgreen:
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Post by 295 antenna » Monday, 08 January 2018, 15:16 PM

There is quite a few videos out there regarding dipoles in the attic .I dont know how much space you have .Also there was a thread some time back about a antenna mounted on a balcony.
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Post by Beachbum24 » Monday, 08 January 2018, 17:30 PM

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There is quite a few videos out there regarding dipoles in the attic .I dont know how much space you have .Also there was a thread some time back about a antenna mounted on a balcony.
Yeah, I'm looking into dipoles now. I do have a second floor. But NO balcony. I'll keep searching. Even more excited now, just learned about skip(dx).

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Post by MDYoungblood » Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:22 PM

Depending on how well you know your neighbors you could probably get away with the Procomm Pat-12 installed on 10 or 20 feet of mast in the back of the house. An outside antenna is going to perform better than any attic antenna. Try to make it fold over to be less conspicuous. HOA can be a bite.

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Post by 295 antenna » Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:27 PM

Great ! when you get stuff set up eventually you will like to play around with Side band . Its sporadic at best now but when it gets going 38 lsb is hopping and you can get alot of dx contacts. I was watching some videos today and some guy was talking dx on a dipole he had set up inside of his house. In retrospect MD is right about performance though.
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Post by Beachbum24 » Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:43 PM

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Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:22 PM
Depending on how well you know your neighbors you could probably get away with the Procomm Pat-12 installed on 10 or 20 feet of mast in the back of the house. An outside antenna is going to perform better than any attic antenna. Try to make it fold over to be less conspicuous. HOA can be a bite.

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The sad thing is. I work for our HOA. I'm going to the office tomorrow morning and see what they say. I have nothing to lose. I know there is NO way they will let put the Pat-12 up. But what about the firestick up on a pole. Lets see if they even let me put something up there. Not giving up yet.

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Post by Beachbum24 » Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:58 PM

I will definitely be looking into that.

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Beachbum24 wrote:
Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:43 PM
MDYoungblood wrote:
Monday, 08 January 2018, 19:22 PM
Depending on how well you know your neighbors you could probably get away with the Procomm Pat-12 installed on 10 or 20 feet of mast in the back of the house. An outside antenna is going to perform better than any attic antenna. Try to make it fold over to be less conspicuous. HOA can be a bite.

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The sad thing is. I work for our HOA. I'm going to the office tomorrow morning and see what they say. I have nothing to lose. I know there is NO way they will let put the Pat-12 up. But what about the firestick up on a pole. Lets see if they even let me put something up there. Not giving up yet.
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Post by MDYoungblood » Tuesday, 09 January 2018, 15:39 PM

I have a friend that lives on the ground floor of his apartment building, he bought a patio table and chair set, has it just outside his sliding door, he mounted a Antron A99 on a 10ft mast, posted it through the middle umbrella hole and it's been that way for 2 years now, seems like the management doesn't care.

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Post by Trapper444 » Tuesday, 09 January 2018, 15:43 PM

Now that sounds slick. Good for him.

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Post by Beachbum24 » Tuesday, 09 January 2018, 17:21 PM

Hey, I like that. I might even know where I can get a used table. I just wish I had a fenced in yard.

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Post by jon6667 » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 10:46 AM

i use a mfj magnetic loop antenna.
works great inside the house. made many contacts with it. but they cost 500.00

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Post by Beachbum24 » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 13:27 PM

That's my biggest setback. Money. That and living in a HOA. But I'm currently looking into building something. That sounds like the most fun for me. And it helps keep the cost down.

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Post by 295 antenna » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 15:43 PM

After seeing the video i want to try a indoor dipole. When shes not home of course.
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Post by Beachbum24 » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 15:58 PM

Hope you don't mind me asking this. But being new and all to the antenna scene. I have to. I am guessing you have a very sweet setup at home. So why would you want to use something inside? I have a Firestick that I'm trying to use indoors. With no luck I might add.

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Post by Blue Ox2 » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 16:05 PM

I'm in an HOA and I put an inverted V DR-Dipole on my roof.
I have also put the Patriot 12' on a Dish mount pole and there hasn't been anything said.

In the Spring I am going to put the IMax 2000 up somehow.
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Post by 295 antenna » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 16:08 PM

I have a patriot antenna 5 feet off the ground behind my home. I retired and moved to a senior mobile home park not realizing i was going to get back into cb after 25 years . Im not supposed to have an antenna so its stealthy just barely peaking above the roof and i have some really good neighbors lol. Im always to make antennas playing around with my radios and new ways (cheap) to makes antennas. If i had my way i would spend so much more on radio stuff. It a hobby i really love.
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Post by Beachbum24 » Wednesday, 10 January 2018, 16:12 PM

I could not agree more. I was into it as a kid. But really want to get back into it. Specially now that I know about skip. But money is an issue for me

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Post by jon6667 » Thursday, 11 January 2018, 11:00 AM

a good dipole will work good. half the fun is making it.

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Post by Mtn Lynx » Thursday, 11 January 2018, 13:44 PM

I was recently in Palm Springs. I brought my radio with me and brought my Dipole antenna. I set the dipole up on the deck of my hotel room (Ground Level). It was just 6 feet off the ground. When skip was rolling i made multiple contacts from across the country even Florida. I might as well add that i came very close to contacting 295 antenna that day. We spoke to the same guy but could not hear each other. So it prolly doesnt make a difference if a dipole is 6 or 60 feet high. JMHO
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Post by Beachbum24 » Thursday, 11 January 2018, 15:51 PM

I have a list of antenna's, and dipole is at the top of the list. Along with 1/2 and 1/4 wave. But still learning a little.
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Post by Beachbum24 » Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 12:16 PM

Well, made up my mind. Going with 295. Going to put my pat-12 on top of a 8-9 ft pole, in the backyard. Hope to be talking to you all soon. 73's
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Post by MDYoungblood » Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 13:09 PM

Having to deal with a HOA, that is probably your best bet. After putting it up and if you don’t have and problems or requested to remove it, upgrading to a imax 2000 or similar fiberglass antenna would be your next step.

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Post by Namvet69 » Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 13:21 PM

I run a dipole in the attic area of my garage. The attic area is 10' tall. Keep in mind the dipole cut for 11 meters will be 17.12598' long. I run in an inverted v also.

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Post by Beachbum24 » Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 13:44 PM

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Having to deal with a HOA, that is probably your best bet. After putting it up and if you don’t have and problems or requested to remove it, upgrading to a imax 2000 or similar fiberglass antenna would be your next step.

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A Imax2000, not sure if I'll get away with that. It being 24ft and all. Plus the size of the mast/pole. Plus I just realized I have a new problem. A 35 ft tree just out my backyard. Now it's about 25 ft out. So maybe it will work in between my house and the tree.
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Post by Beachbum24 » Wednesday, 24 January 2018, 13:51 PM

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I run a dipole in the attic area of my garage. The attic area is 10' tall. Keep in mind the dipole cut for 11 meters will be 17.12598' long. I run in an inverted v also.
Being I have only 9-10 ft up there. I guess that won't work. Was thinking of something like this. And that's only if my HOA makes me take the other down.

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You'll be fine with the inverted V in there. Don't worry if the ends need to straighten out for a few inches, or so, either. JMHO. 73

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Post by halfwatt959 » Saturday, 27 January 2018, 20:29 PM

if you have enough attic space you could mount something like an a-99 sideways [looks stupid but has amazing dx capabilities that way] but if its an apartment or condo I'm not sure about messing up the neighbors computers video games ect. However there is another way... Get your ham license and the hoa shouldn't be able to complain about an outdoor antenna. I got a letter from my city council about my little 30 foot tower and 3 antennas. telling me they had to go. Went down to cityhall with my license and explained that I was part of the local emergency nets and problem solved. After I got hit by the tornado jan 21 2017 the code officer made the comment that he was glad they were gone. Now I kave a 50 foot tower, a 30 footer and fixing to put up a 40 footer for 11m ground plane. He just shook his head and told me just to paint them so the rust didn't make his house look bad. He was my neighbor but moved
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Post by Beachbum24 » Saturday, 27 January 2018, 21:01 PM

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if you have enough attic space you could mount something like an a-99 sideways [looks stupid but has amazing dx capabilities that way] but if its an apartment or condo I'm not sure about messing up the neighbors computers video games ect. However there is another way... Get your ham license and the hoa shouldn't be able to complain about an outdoor antenna. I got a letter from my city council about my little 30 foot tower and 3 antennas. telling me they had to go. Went down to cityhall with my license and explained that I was part of the local emergency nets and problem solved. After I got hit by the tornado jan 21 2017 the code officer made the comment that he was glad they were gone. Now I kave a 50 foot tower, a 30 footer and fixing to put up a 40 footer for 11m ground plane. He just shook his head and told me just to paint them so the rust didn't make his house look bad. He was my neighbor but moved
That's what I first looked into. But I will be going with my Pat-12 on top of a old sat dish. If I get forced to take it down by my HOA. Then it goes in the backyard on top of a 8-9 ft pole. Then, since I work for my HOA, I would quit.
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Post by halfwatt959 » Sunday, 28 January 2018, 8:14 AM

The problem here is everybody thinks they are special and the world MUST revolve around them. HOA s are what I call the front yard mafia. They could most likely be challeneged in court but the problem there is they probably have more money and better lawyers than the average home owner. And we all know $$$$$$$$$ grease the wheels of politics government and "justice?" but let a disaster happen where your radio is their ONLY means of communicating because all the cell towers are down I bet they a. would be glad its there and B help you put it up. I can understand not having a 50-60' tower in the front yard but a modest ant system in the back wont hurt anyone. The old "but that makes my property value go down" doesn't fly with me. But if you are worried about that then sell out before we put something else is my opinion but I can be a bit evil when necasary.
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